Any tests I can think of would involve either specialist equipment or a Siren. And since I don't qualify as the latter any more, I think we're out of luck (U__U;;) Unless you happen to have seen anything purple and glowy just lying around anywhere? Haha!!
But anyway Werewolves are real too? First of all, that's pretty bad*ss :Oc As is the thought of being in some sort of post-apocalyptic werewolf world!! Even if the reality is far less glamorous Would there be any tests or telltale signs to identify if THAT'S the case?
Keep an eye out for purple glowing things. Understood. (I am not sure what face to follow this up with.)
Pardon the sensitive question, but perhaps your father would offer more expertise?
But yes, werewolves are very real, as many a fledgling who'd lost their head to one would testify. If they still had a head to do it with. I'm not sure "badass" would be my first description of their apocalypse.
[And here is a small pause.]
But the current setting aligns with their ideas of the end of days reasonably well. Moreso than with the vampiric prophecies, although there is some overlap.
[And another pause, longer.]
If this was a case of humans gaining access to a caern and its power and becoming tied in with it, somehow
[Longest pause yet. Finally he adds:] Excuse me. This is a very distracting idea.
No. If it's a Vault, my dad can't find out! He actually seems to be getting better here, but if he thought there was a Vault within reach? I don't even know what he'd do. So if Eridium is involved somehow, Jack is the last person anyone should ask despite his knowledge on the subject. Bad idea. Very very bad.
And don't worry, distracting ideas are distracting for a reason!! I just hope it's the "promising" kind of distracting and not the "oh no we're all hecka doomed" kind. Take your time, friend!
Ah. I think I understand. Not a word to Jack, then. In this case, what about your Rhys? Would he have anything to contribute?
[He almost leaves it at that, but really, that would be cowardly. He'd said something and he ought to follow through on it.]
It's mostly in the sense that I have nearly been ready to discard the idea that this is my own world. Especially with the discrepancy in years. Perhaps I am the one jumping to conclusions now.
But if we could establish a channel of communication with the admin - a secure one - we may be able to run key terms by her and see if she reacts to any. Describe Eridium to her, or Lupines for the matter, and see how she responds?
He's not MY Rhys!! Don't make it weird, geez! (◉ɷ◉ ) But yes I can absolutely ask him too, even though I don't know how much he knows about Eridium itself.
And um I do like your idea about talking to her in private about this! A lot It's just that she isn't talking to me any more Last time I tried messaging her about something, she just didn't respond. At all. So either she's really mad at me or she's keeping quiet for other reasons. She never said anything about the weird old network messages, did she? Maybe she's ashamed or scared?
Apologies. It's hard not to think of him as your... aide, for lack of a better term. I'm sure he'd prefer it to ward.
It's also perfectly possible that she's reserving the right to communicate with us only on her own terms, when she chooses. In my experience, commenting on something like the messages only fans the flames of speculation and panic. Ignoring it and waiting for the uproar to die out in the natural course of life is the safest route. That's certainly been the most commonly successful way to deal with apocalyptic prophecies, since we're on the topic.
But that is thinking of her as a skilled manipulator. Which I know you prefer not to do.
You dork!! Is that a vampire thing? You all have aides or wards since you don't do friendship unless you get bullied into it by meddlesome Sirens? (ᗒᗜᗕ)
And no, it's okay, I know she's likely manipulating us in some fashion whether she wants to or not. It's just a shame that it has to be this way. Still! That just means more mysteries to sink our teeth-slash-fangs into, doesn't it?? Until we all descend into braindead madness, anyway. Still, um, it makes for good motivation!
Partly, yes. Although partly it's because he seems like without your supervision he might impale himself on his butter knife.
I like mysteries. I do not like being effectively caged and toyed with, especially with the oh so alluring promise of future braindead madness. Which is why I would much prefer to think that that is not what is happening, and we are back to the question of how to induce the Admin to trust us.
I Hm. I was going to say no? Vault guardians are typically monsters. Weird ones. Like, the Sentinel had a whole bunch of faces, apparently? The Destroyer was a mass of tentacles with one eye, and the Warrior was a creature that effectively acted as a weapon of mass destruction (I don't know what it looked like because it only woke after I died). So I was kind of assuming that? But she *could* be a Siren, there's at least one of us unaccounted for Though I don't know how the whole "only six Sirens in the universe at once" thing works when we're all being drawn here from different places anyway. Especially with me being dead! Heck, she could be my cosmic replacement. The one who was born to fill my shoes? She might even have the same
[ Oh
Oh.
There's a few minutes' delay before Angel finishes her sentence. ]
Embarrassing as it is to admit, I need you to slow down and start from the beginning. Why are there only six in the universe, and how do you know this fact? What do you mean by cosmic replacement? And are you suggesting that you might have lost your Siren abilities because she has somehow taken them for herself?
In such a case, would the rest of us be collateral damage? Or is it possible, like I've said before, that she cannot distinguish different kinds of supernaturals, and prefers to neutralize us all?
Okay, sorry, I did the brain-running-away thing again!! Ugh Okay. There are always only six Sirens! That's just a thing. It's how it is. A law of nature that can't be broken. We're born with our powers (and the tattoos!!), so it's safe to say that a new Siren can only be born once another has died. Not much is really known about how it all happens? What with us being so rare But I've assumed that our powers get - recycled, I guess? So mine is was Phaseshift Since I'm dead, presumably a new Siren got born soon after? Maybe she got Phaseshift too instead of something new? Which would mean that the people who think this is a simulation might not be *entirely* incorrect. In the control core I used to be able to manipulate the way my environment looked. Pretty extensively because I was hooked into it all I could do some awesome things with tech in general. I used to be linked up with all the Hyperion databases and surveillance networks and stuff! Anywhere there was tech made by the company, I could control a whole lot of stuff It's pretty feasible that someone with my abilities could run a place like this. Particularly if the spiders *are* robotic. I'm not sure how she'd be neutralising people, though Sorry!! This is all pretty awful to think about. For a lot of reasons
[ If this theory is right, then isn't al this partially Angel's fault? For dying when she did?
No, okay, that's stupid. But still a little distressing to contemplate. ]
I can't blame you. This is an - actually, pardon me, is it an exciting possibility? Sometimes I forget that some answers are worse than no answers at all.
But returning to the topic at hand. A restricted number of beings of a certain sort is not unheard of, and this usually does include some form of transfer of power, the young consuming the old... well, not literally, I do hope. So Phaseshift, as an ability, has to do with manipulation of technology, and reality through it? And this could be her creation, or more likely, the result of her control breaking down or slipping in some fashion. She held up the world, and now she dropped it.
[A slightly awkward pause. He didn't mean to be so... poetic about it.]
I am not sure what this being a simulation would entail. Our friend Doctor Snookums mentioned something about a matrix? I feel like I should be able to place the reference, but it keeps slipping...
Exciting but also incredibly unpleasant (•́ ﹏ •̀) I know it's silly and irrational but the thought of someone else possessing the thing that's defined my entire life while I *don't* have it is gross, I guess? Maybe I have more of an ego than I thought and I'm getting fussy because I'm not ~*~*~*special*~*~*~ any more, hehehe ^^;;;
ANYWAY. You got it! Very nicely put. XP As for Dr. H and his Matrix, it was a really old action movie?? It's why he keeps calling me Trinity like a big douche It was pretty unrealistic, though. If this place is a result of Siren influence then it'll be more augmentation than full simulation, I think? That's much better for keeping things running smoothly, and requires less... babysitting, I suppose? A simulation would be fabricated from scratch. More prone to bugs, interference, glitches... And it would mean our real bodies would have to be stored and maintained somewhere. A VR augmentation would be different We'd really be "here," but things may not be exactly as they seem. Harder to test for, too. :\
Not at all. I understand completely. Even if not deliberate, it feels like theft. You build your life around something, and some stranger claims it instead of you? By what right?
But that would explain it. I'm not a big fan of action movies. They're always terribly embarrassing.
"Augmentation" would mean that the basics are there, but not the whole? Pardon my shaky grasp on the terminology. Would that mean that the weather is not real, as such, or perhaps the monsters? Ah, and here is a thought - is it possible that the injections and other interference by the Admin are somehow related to keeping us experiencing the illusion? I can't quite theorize how, but perhaps good old Dr. H was not entirely wrong in his hypothesis about drugs?
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Unless you happen to have seen anything purple and glowy just lying around anywhere? Haha!!
But anyway
Werewolves are real too? First of all, that's pretty bad*ss :Oc
As is the thought of being in some sort of post-apocalyptic werewolf world!! Even if the reality is far less glamorous
Would there be any tests or telltale signs to identify if THAT'S the case?
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Pardon the sensitive question, but perhaps your father would offer more expertise?
But yes, werewolves are very real, as many a fledgling who'd lost their head to one would testify. If they still had a head to do it with. I'm not sure "badass" would be my first description of their apocalypse.
[And here is a small pause.]
But the current setting aligns with their ideas of the end of days reasonably well. Moreso than with the vampiric prophecies, although there is some overlap.
[And another pause, longer.]
If this was a case of humans gaining access to a caern and its power and becoming tied in with it, somehow
[Longest pause yet. Finally he adds:] Excuse me. This is a very distracting idea.
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If it's a Vault, my dad can't find out! He actually seems to be getting better here, but if he thought there was a Vault within reach? I don't even know what he'd do. So if Eridium is involved somehow, Jack is the last person anyone should ask despite his knowledge on the subject.
Bad idea. Very very bad.
And don't worry, distracting ideas are distracting for a reason!! I just hope it's the "promising" kind of distracting and not the "oh no we're all hecka doomed" kind.
Take your time, friend!
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[He almost leaves it at that, but really, that would be cowardly. He'd said something and he ought to follow through on it.]
It's mostly in the sense that I have nearly been ready to discard the idea that this is my own world. Especially with the discrepancy in years. Perhaps I am the one jumping to conclusions now.
But if we could establish a channel of communication with the admin - a secure one - we may be able to run key terms by her and see if she reacts to any. Describe Eridium to her, or Lupines for the matter, and see how she responds?
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But yes I can absolutely ask him too, even though I don't know how much he knows about Eridium itself.
And um
I do like your idea about talking to her in private about this! A lot
It's just that she isn't talking to me any more
Last time I tried messaging her about something, she just didn't respond. At all.
So either she's really mad at me or she's keeping quiet for other reasons. She never said anything about the weird old network messages, did she?
Maybe she's ashamed or scared?
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It's also perfectly possible that she's reserving the right to communicate with us only on her own terms, when she chooses. In my experience, commenting on something like the messages only fans the flames of speculation and panic. Ignoring it and waiting for the uproar to die out in the natural course of life is the safest route. That's certainly been the most commonly successful way to deal with apocalyptic prophecies, since we're on the topic.
But that is thinking of her as a skilled manipulator. Which I know you prefer not to do.
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And no, it's okay, I know she's likely manipulating us in some fashion whether she wants to or not. It's just a shame that it has to be this way.
Still! That just means more mysteries to sink our teeth-slash-fangs into, doesn't it??
Until we all descend into braindead madness, anyway. Still, um, it makes for good motivation!
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I like mysteries. I do not like being effectively caged and toyed with, especially with the oh so alluring promise of future braindead madness. Which is why I would much prefer to think that that is not what is happening, and we are back to the question of how to induce the Admin to trust us.
If there was a Vault - would she be a Siren?
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I
Hm.
I was going to say no?
Vault guardians are typically monsters. Weird ones. Like, the Sentinel had a whole bunch of faces, apparently? The Destroyer was a mass of tentacles with one eye, and the Warrior was a creature that effectively acted as a weapon of mass destruction (I don't know what it looked like because it only woke after I died). So I was kind of assuming that?
But she *could* be a Siren, there's at least one of us unaccounted for
Though I don't know how the whole "only six Sirens in the universe at once" thing works when we're all being drawn here from different places anyway. Especially with me being dead!
Heck, she could be my cosmic replacement. The one who was born to fill my shoes? She might even have the same
[ Oh
Oh.
There's a few minutes' delay before Angel finishes her sentence. ]
She could have my powers?
Oh geez
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In such a case, would the rest of us be collateral damage? Or is it possible, like I've said before, that she cannot distinguish different kinds of supernaturals, and prefers to neutralize us all?
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Okay. There are always only six Sirens! That's just a thing. It's how it is. A law of nature that can't be broken.
We're born with our powers (and the tattoos!!), so it's safe to say that a new Siren can only be born once another has died.
Not much is really known about how it all happens? What with us being so rare
But I've assumed that our powers get - recycled, I guess?
So mine
iswas PhaseshiftSince I'm dead, presumably a new Siren got born soon after? Maybe she got Phaseshift too instead of something new?
Which would mean that the people who think this is a simulation might not be *entirely* incorrect. In the control core I used to be able to manipulate the way my environment looked. Pretty extensively because I was hooked into it all
I could do some awesome things with tech in general. I used to be linked up with all the Hyperion databases and surveillance networks and stuff! Anywhere there was tech made by the company, I could control a whole lot of stuff
It's pretty feasible that someone with my abilities could run a place like this. Particularly if the spiders *are* robotic.
I'm not sure how she'd be neutralising people, though
Sorry!! This is all pretty awful to think about. For a lot of reasons
[ If this theory is right, then isn't al this partially Angel's fault? For dying when she did?
No, okay, that's stupid. But still a little distressing to contemplate. ]
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But returning to the topic at hand. A restricted number of beings of a certain sort is not unheard of, and this usually does include some form of transfer of power, the young consuming the old... well, not literally, I do hope. So Phaseshift, as an ability, has to do with manipulation of technology, and reality through it? And this could be her creation, or more likely, the result of her control breaking down or slipping in some fashion. She held up the world, and now she dropped it.
[A slightly awkward pause. He didn't mean to be so... poetic about it.]
I am not sure what this being a simulation would entail. Our friend Doctor Snookums mentioned something about a matrix? I feel like I should be able to place the reference, but it keeps slipping...
[Insufficient nerdery found :(((.]
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gross, I guess?
Maybe I have more of an ego than I thought and I'm getting fussy because I'm not ~*~*~*special*~*~*~ any more, hehehe ^^;;;
ANYWAY. You got it! Very nicely put. XP
As for Dr. H and his Matrix, it was a really old action movie?? It's why he keeps calling me Trinity like a big douche
It was pretty unrealistic, though. If this place is a result of Siren influence then it'll be more augmentation than full simulation, I think?
That's much better for keeping things running smoothly, and requires less... babysitting, I suppose?
A simulation would be fabricated from scratch. More prone to bugs, interference, glitches... And it would mean our real bodies would have to be stored and maintained somewhere. A VR augmentation would be different
We'd really be "here," but things may not be exactly as they seem. Harder to test for, too. :\
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Not at all. I understand completely. Even if not deliberate, it feels like theft. You build your life around something, and some stranger claims it instead of you? By what right?
But that would explain it. I'm not a big fan of action movies. They're always terribly embarrassing.
"Augmentation" would mean that the basics are there, but not the whole? Pardon my shaky grasp on the terminology. Would that mean that the weather is not real, as such, or perhaps the monsters? Ah, and here is a thought - is it possible that the injections and other interference by the Admin are somehow related to keeping us experiencing the illusion? I can't quite theorize how, but perhaps good old Dr. H was not entirely wrong in his hypothesis about drugs?